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Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif
      #1129756 - 09/03/06 02:02 PM

I managed to get set-up with my 8" LX-90 and a ToUcam Pro for the crash
of the Smart-1 probe on the lunar surface. Being unfamiliar with the
topography around the Lake of Excellence, I took a whack at framing the
area that I thought would be targeted. I could not lay a hand on my 6.3
reducer so I ended up getting it at f/10 instead. Oh, well...at least
the clouds gave me a break.

http://cosmonut.org/Smart-1.gif


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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: PeterL]
      #1129778 - 09/03/06 02:13 PM

Great job Peter!

We were clouded over here. Did any ejecta reach sunlight?

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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: imjeffp]
      #1129831 - 09/03/06 02:30 PM

I rolled a few more AVIs following the blue flash and didn't see any signs of ejecta.

I was running a pretty high gain at 5 FPS.


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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: PeterL]
      #1129986 - 09/03/06 03:43 PM

that's excellent! I hope you communicate this image record to ALPO. They have (thusfar) received nothing far as I have heard from what Dembowski has posted on the ALPO yahoo lunar group --so they would be very grateful for the observation i'm sure. Their smart-1 impact observation site is here just in case you hadn't seen it.

Great job!

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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: PeterL]
      #1129991 - 09/03/06 03:46 PM

Cool video. The impact is not all that impressive though. I didn't see it.

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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: Ptarmigan]
      #1130015 - 09/03/06 03:56 PM

HI Mardi,

thanks for the ALPO link...email sent to William and Brian.

Edited by PeterL (09/03/06 04:18 PM)


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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: PeterL]
      #1130056 - 09/03/06 04:25 PM

Nice that you got something.. I heard it was mag17 so you were lucky to get anything at all!

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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: iceman]
      #1130074 - 09/03/06 04:32 PM

Peter, that is an awesome sequence! Who says amateurs can't contribute, just excellent!

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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: PeterL]
      #1130158 - 09/03/06 05:21 PM

GREAT capture, Peter... congratulations!!!
From my seat it looks like you did pretty doggoned good at f/10. I'd have never guessed you weren't familiar with the area. Nicely done!

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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: Carol L]
      #1130210 - 09/03/06 05:45 PM

Great job Peter! According to Raffaello Lena of the GLR Group you are one of only two amateurs to have captured this so far. Your targeting skills of this area in Earthshine is very impressive, well done!

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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: slammel]
      #1130239 - 09/03/06 05:56 PM

excellent capture there Peter, and thanks for sharing it.

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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: slammel]
      #1130258 - 09/03/06 06:02 PM

Incredible sequence Peter. It looks like you got some colour in there as well. Fantastic job with an 8" scope.

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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: Davo]
      #1130313 - 09/03/06 06:27 PM

I am eager to see what others come forward with...

I don't know how blue the flash really was. There must have been some in there since I was capturing with a color webcam. Expecting a very dim event,I hiked up the gain and saturation. I expect those settings may have imparted some false color.


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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: PeterL]
      #1130549 - 09/03/06 08:27 PM

Great job, Peter!

Thanks for sharing that.

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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: square_peg]
      #1130776 - 09/03/06 11:01 PM

Nice job, Peter--congratulations!

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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: Special Ed]
      #1130824 - 09/03/06 11:22 PM

Peter: Great work on a tough target!

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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: gazerjim]
      #1130949 - 09/04/06 12:54 AM

Nice job Peter!

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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: Southpaw]
      #1131045 - 09/04/06 02:08 AM

Peter,

Nice work on such a challenging event.

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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: Gendo]
      #1131140 - 09/04/06 05:12 AM

Nice job, Peter!

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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: PeterL]
      #1131333 - 09/04/06 10:57 AM

Peter,

That is totally awesome!! I'll bet the guy from Spaceweather as well as Chuck Wood would love to see that!

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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: Sunspot]
      #1131346 - 09/04/06 11:07 AM

On Sunday AM, I tried to submit the gif using the Spaceweather submission form, but it didn't go (file size too large?) so, I sent an email with the link instead.

I'll get it to Chuck Wood. Thanks for the suggestion.


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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: Sunspot]
      #1131502 - 09/04/06 12:39 PM

a comparison of the flash contour from an enlarged portion of the frame in my capture with the contour as plotted by the CFHT team.



I tried to keep the north (upper right) oriented correctly, but I am unsure about the orientation of the east-west axis.

What do you think?


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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: PeterL]
      #1132034 - 09/04/06 07:24 PM

I think that you totally nailed it, Peter!

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Re: Smart-1 Impact: animated .gif new [Re: Charlie Hein]
      #1132057 - 09/04/06 07:52 PM

Peter,

Its an interesting aspect to investigate but I don't know what this shows apart from a possible elongation in the same direction as indicated in the CFHT image. The CFHT site says it is in the direction of travel but if both these images are oriented correctly it looks to me more like its off to the south west not due south.

One difference to bear in mind is that the CFHT was approx 10 sec H2 narrow-band exposure whereas yours was less than 1/5 sec in natural light. Their image has elongation to the upper left and lower right which is stated to be from the spider. It looks to be a 4 vane type from what I've seen on the website so it probably has something to do with the elongations top right and bottom left too. Your image doesn't have this problem so maybe it is more valid for this type of investigation... one up to the amateur community?

The 2 separate areas with different colours could be of interest to someone who knows what they are looking for. Maybe the blue is the impact and the violet is the volatiles, but how far apart would that be - too far for that to make sense? Perhaps someone who knows what they are looking at can make some sense of it or maybe its an imaging artefact and means nothing.

Don't know what it will tell anyone except that there is a now a tiny new crater for the next Lunar mission to look for!

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